Low Down on Lisbon II
Posted 09-29-2009 at 08:06 AM by Paddy Shoot
Low Down on Lisbon II - Things the Government Don't want YOU to Know.
# Leave Ireland to the Irish we are more than capable of making our own decisions when it comes to Ireland, we don't need any one in Europe telling us what we must and must not do. Remember that this referendum was supposed to be a one off and that if Ireland voted NO then it was not going to be ratified. Now they decide that we have to have another one, that in its self sounds dodgey to me.
I know this Government couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery, but we can change that, all we need to do is have an election. That is when the green party decide to grow up and withdraw there support for this Government. But we shouldn't just vote yes just because were fed up with this government, remember they want you to vote yes so that cant be good.
Please read on and open your minds, if after reading you still feel like voting yes, then please do. But please don't just vote yes because you are fed up with this government or because you didn't bother to read the treaty or at least read what I have posted below.
1. Is your job safe ?
Rulings of the EU Court of Justice (ECJ) mean that workers contracted by East European firms can work in Ireland for Lower Wages and displace Irish workers from their jobs. Remember the Irish Ferries Dispute ?.
2. A Race to the Bottom.
Lisbon would further encourage the displacement of Irish workers and Lower the wages for tens of thousands of Irish workers, many of whom would have to leave the country.
Lisbon gives the EU exclusive power to decide the rules on Foreign Direct Investment. This could affect Investment into Ireland (Artics. 206-7 TFEU).
3. Would you like MUCH more Immigration ?
No Lisbon, No Enlargement," French President Nicolas Sarkozy said last June. Lisbon facilitates an 'ever closer Union' that is also EVER EXPANDING.
The three main parties support the EU entry of Turkey - an economically underdeveloped country of 75 million people - mostly small farmers and Low paid workers. The EU started talks to welcome Turkey into the EU and plans to push the issue forward.
If Nice helped bring us half a million migrants, how many will Lisbon bring ? Do we need more mass immigration of cheap labour undermining Irish workers ? What about the farmers' share of dwindling CAP payments ? [ After Turkish entry the EU will simply be unable to sustain its current agricultural and regional policy. Europe would Implode.
Lisbon gives the EU FULL control over immigration (Arts 79 and 67 TFEU).
4. Do you want to pay for the EU ?
Ireland is expected to become a Net Contributor to the EU budget from 2013, with an annual net contribution of 500 million. Net receipts will have fallen from 1.6 billion in 2004 to around zero by 2011, when Ireland will contribute as much as it receives from the EU budget. ( Source data given to a Dail finance committee by the Department of finance secretary general David Doyle, Finfacts.ie 22.02.2008)
Lisbon undermines Irelands economic future.
Lisbon grants the EU court of Justice the power to order the harmonisation of national indirect taxes if it decides that this causes a "distortion of cpmpetition" in the EU market (Art.113 TFEU).
Standardised Corporation Tax.
Irelands NO vote to Lisbon halted EU moves to introduce a Common Consolidated Corporate Tax base (CCCTB) . The introduction of an EU Corporate Tax Base will take a jackhammer to Ireland's economic future and undermine the attraction of Ireland to foreign business.
( I am absolutely convinced this [CCCTB] is a Trojan horse to bring in common rate tax) Turlough O' Sullivan, director general of business lobby group IBEC, Irish Independent, 07.06.2008.
5. Do you want Ireland to become an EU province ?
Lisbon makes EU a State.
The Lisbon treaty gives the EU a State constitution that is superior to the national constitions of member states (Arts. 1 & 47 TEU; Declaration 17) . With Lisbon the EU would have a President (Art. 15 TEU), a misister for foreign affairs and security plovcy (Art. 18 TEU), and its very own citizens ( Art. 9 TEU) .
Lisbon reduces member states powers.
Lisbob reduces the powers of national parliaments in 50 policy areas and abolishes the national veto in 32 areas. These include, among others, criminal justice and policing, immigration, public services, energy, transport, tourism, sport, culture, public health, the EU budget and international measures on climate change.
" I like to compare the European Union... to the organisation of empires. The empires! because you have the dimension of empires." Jose Manuel Barroso, President of the European Commision, 10.07.2007.
6. Lisbon reduces Ireland's voting by 50%.
Lisbon bases legislative power on population size. This means that Germany's relative voting power in the key EU Council is doubled, while Ireland's power is halved..
7.Do we need an EU's 'Supreme Court' to overrule our values ?
EU Court of Justice superior to the Supreme Court.
Lisbon makes the EU charter of Fundamental Rights binding. This means the rights and responsibilites of all EU citizens would fall under the rule of the European Court of Justice (ECJ) in Luxemburg (Art. 6 TEU)
The ECJ legislates through case law, and its main role is to ensure that common standards apply uniformly across the Union. Under the Lisbon treaty, todays diversity in civil liberties and ethical issues would be at the mercy of the ECJ.
Art 81 (TFEU) allows for more harmonisation of civil laws across the EU.
7. Why are we having a second referendum ?.
Because bureaucrats are fighting for their income, their careers and more power.
It is the reason why they have bulldozed the French, Dutch and Irish referendum results.
It is an insult to the Irish people to be asked to vote again on the same treaty.
Lisbon would allow the EU to further empower itself without ever having to ask the people ( Art. 48 TEU,
352 TFEU)
# Remember You are voting on behalf of the democratic freedom-loving peoples across the Union.
8. What if Ireland again votes NO ?
Millions of citizens across the EU would rejoice. It would force the EU to allow the peoples of Europe to exercise their right for a genuine debate on the future of Europe.
Ireland will have stood shoulder to shoulder with the peoples of France and Holland, who have already voted NO. Ire;and will not be Bullied.
" There is no provision in the existing treaties to isolate anybody. There is no provision to throw out anybody, unless unanimously all existing members of the club agree to throw you out. And I doubt, now or in the future, any Irish Goverment is going to unanimously agree to throw themselves out" Former EU Commissioner Cgarlier Mc Creevey, Hot Press, december 2008.
9 Do we need worthless Guarantees ?
Brian Cowen (BIFFO) had asked for "legally binding guarantees" instead he got worthless "clarifications".
There not worth the paper they're written on.
This is admitted in the Council document itself, where the "guarantees" are described as "clarifications" that change nothing in the treaty.
The "Guarantees" are a PR con job. You are voting on the exact same Treaty that the Iriah people rejected last year.
10. DO WE TRUST THEM ?
If NAMA is Nuts, Then Lisbon is Lethal.
STOP them from handing over your money to the BANKSTERS and your power to EU BUREAUCRATS - to an unelected EU Commission and an EU Council in which we will have less that 1% of the vote.
" Brian Lenihans assurances have all the value of a debased currency. We have been fooled so often even in the recent past that it would be well to discount all his pledges as utterly worthless"
So come on Ireland and vote NO on Oct 2 send a message to the Goverment and the EU that Irish people will not be bullied into anything.
# Leave Ireland to the Irish we are more than capable of making our own decisions when it comes to Ireland, we don't need any one in Europe telling us what we must and must not do. Remember that this referendum was supposed to be a one off and that if Ireland voted NO then it was not going to be ratified. Now they decide that we have to have another one, that in its self sounds dodgey to me.
I know this Government couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery, but we can change that, all we need to do is have an election. That is when the green party decide to grow up and withdraw there support for this Government. But we shouldn't just vote yes just because were fed up with this government, remember they want you to vote yes so that cant be good.
Please read on and open your minds, if after reading you still feel like voting yes, then please do. But please don't just vote yes because you are fed up with this government or because you didn't bother to read the treaty or at least read what I have posted below.
1. Is your job safe ?
Rulings of the EU Court of Justice (ECJ) mean that workers contracted by East European firms can work in Ireland for Lower Wages and displace Irish workers from their jobs. Remember the Irish Ferries Dispute ?.
2. A Race to the Bottom.
Lisbon would further encourage the displacement of Irish workers and Lower the wages for tens of thousands of Irish workers, many of whom would have to leave the country.
Lisbon gives the EU exclusive power to decide the rules on Foreign Direct Investment. This could affect Investment into Ireland (Artics. 206-7 TFEU).
3. Would you like MUCH more Immigration ?
No Lisbon, No Enlargement," French President Nicolas Sarkozy said last June. Lisbon facilitates an 'ever closer Union' that is also EVER EXPANDING.
The three main parties support the EU entry of Turkey - an economically underdeveloped country of 75 million people - mostly small farmers and Low paid workers. The EU started talks to welcome Turkey into the EU and plans to push the issue forward.
If Nice helped bring us half a million migrants, how many will Lisbon bring ? Do we need more mass immigration of cheap labour undermining Irish workers ? What about the farmers' share of dwindling CAP payments ? [ After Turkish entry the EU will simply be unable to sustain its current agricultural and regional policy. Europe would Implode.
Lisbon gives the EU FULL control over immigration (Arts 79 and 67 TFEU).
4. Do you want to pay for the EU ?
Ireland is expected to become a Net Contributor to the EU budget from 2013, with an annual net contribution of 500 million. Net receipts will have fallen from 1.6 billion in 2004 to around zero by 2011, when Ireland will contribute as much as it receives from the EU budget. ( Source data given to a Dail finance committee by the Department of finance secretary general David Doyle, Finfacts.ie 22.02.2008)
Lisbon undermines Irelands economic future.
Lisbon grants the EU court of Justice the power to order the harmonisation of national indirect taxes if it decides that this causes a "distortion of cpmpetition" in the EU market (Art.113 TFEU).
Standardised Corporation Tax.
Irelands NO vote to Lisbon halted EU moves to introduce a Common Consolidated Corporate Tax base (CCCTB) . The introduction of an EU Corporate Tax Base will take a jackhammer to Ireland's economic future and undermine the attraction of Ireland to foreign business.
( I am absolutely convinced this [CCCTB] is a Trojan horse to bring in common rate tax) Turlough O' Sullivan, director general of business lobby group IBEC, Irish Independent, 07.06.2008.
5. Do you want Ireland to become an EU province ?
Lisbon makes EU a State.
The Lisbon treaty gives the EU a State constitution that is superior to the national constitions of member states (Arts. 1 & 47 TEU; Declaration 17) . With Lisbon the EU would have a President (Art. 15 TEU), a misister for foreign affairs and security plovcy (Art. 18 TEU), and its very own citizens ( Art. 9 TEU) .
Lisbon reduces member states powers.
Lisbob reduces the powers of national parliaments in 50 policy areas and abolishes the national veto in 32 areas. These include, among others, criminal justice and policing, immigration, public services, energy, transport, tourism, sport, culture, public health, the EU budget and international measures on climate change.
" I like to compare the European Union... to the organisation of empires. The empires! because you have the dimension of empires." Jose Manuel Barroso, President of the European Commision, 10.07.2007.
6. Lisbon reduces Ireland's voting by 50%.
Lisbon bases legislative power on population size. This means that Germany's relative voting power in the key EU Council is doubled, while Ireland's power is halved..
7.Do we need an EU's 'Supreme Court' to overrule our values ?
EU Court of Justice superior to the Supreme Court.
Lisbon makes the EU charter of Fundamental Rights binding. This means the rights and responsibilites of all EU citizens would fall under the rule of the European Court of Justice (ECJ) in Luxemburg (Art. 6 TEU)
The ECJ legislates through case law, and its main role is to ensure that common standards apply uniformly across the Union. Under the Lisbon treaty, todays diversity in civil liberties and ethical issues would be at the mercy of the ECJ.
Art 81 (TFEU) allows for more harmonisation of civil laws across the EU.
7. Why are we having a second referendum ?.
Because bureaucrats are fighting for their income, their careers and more power.
It is the reason why they have bulldozed the French, Dutch and Irish referendum results.
It is an insult to the Irish people to be asked to vote again on the same treaty.
Lisbon would allow the EU to further empower itself without ever having to ask the people ( Art. 48 TEU,
352 TFEU)
# Remember You are voting on behalf of the democratic freedom-loving peoples across the Union.
8. What if Ireland again votes NO ?
Millions of citizens across the EU would rejoice. It would force the EU to allow the peoples of Europe to exercise their right for a genuine debate on the future of Europe.
Ireland will have stood shoulder to shoulder with the peoples of France and Holland, who have already voted NO. Ire;and will not be Bullied.
" There is no provision in the existing treaties to isolate anybody. There is no provision to throw out anybody, unless unanimously all existing members of the club agree to throw you out. And I doubt, now or in the future, any Irish Goverment is going to unanimously agree to throw themselves out" Former EU Commissioner Cgarlier Mc Creevey, Hot Press, december 2008.
9 Do we need worthless Guarantees ?
Brian Cowen (BIFFO) had asked for "legally binding guarantees" instead he got worthless "clarifications".
There not worth the paper they're written on.
This is admitted in the Council document itself, where the "guarantees" are described as "clarifications" that change nothing in the treaty.
The "Guarantees" are a PR con job. You are voting on the exact same Treaty that the Iriah people rejected last year.
10. DO WE TRUST THEM ?
If NAMA is Nuts, Then Lisbon is Lethal.
STOP them from handing over your money to the BANKSTERS and your power to EU BUREAUCRATS - to an unelected EU Commission and an EU Council in which we will have less that 1% of the vote.
" Brian Lenihans assurances have all the value of a debased currency. We have been fooled so often even in the recent past that it would be well to discount all his pledges as utterly worthless"
So come on Ireland and vote NO on Oct 2 send a message to the Goverment and the EU that Irish people will not be bullied into anything.
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